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“Wait – You don’t have to take the LSAT for Law School Admission? Seriously?!?”
Posted by Cory@manhattanlsat.com in Admissions, Law School, LSAT in the news, Uncategorized on January 14th, 2011
If your LSAT spidey senses were particularly aflutter over the last 48 hours, it’s probably because a very interesting article was published by the National Law Journal Wednesday, creating a lot of buzz around the law school blog-o-sphere.
The article outlines the potential plans for the ABA to no longer require the LSAT to be taken in order to be admitted into Law School. I know, right – after all those cups of coffee, weeks without seeing family, friends, sunlight or SportsCenter!! Alas, take comfort: prospective law school students after you will be forced to suffer the same cruel and unusual punishment that is the LSAT.
This change in policy may be adopted, however it certainly does not signify the end of the dreaded exam. I think it very unlikely that the top law school programs will cease desiring prospective students to report an LSAT score, for the simple reason that they believe in the test’s diagnostic capabilities and gives them another quantifiable statistic to boast about. It’s no secret that the top schools want the top students, and the LSAT has been the standard for determining one’s ability to succeed in law school for the past million years (citation needed, but it’s been roughly that long). And as long as the top schools are requiring the scores, you can bet that others will follow suit.
What is more interesting to consider is the relevance of such a change in policy to the vaunted US News and World Report Rankings. Graduate programs in every style of ivory-tower architectural influence go to great lengths to ensure that they are as highly ranked as possible. Predictably, the average LSAT score of admitted students plays a role in where an institution will be ranked on this list.
Does this mean that schools might now admit certain students that they like without requiring LSAT scores? It’s possible, and this would certainly allow schools to be more liberal with their admission standards while still keep their precious average LSAT score statistics up to snuff. Lower tier schools may jump at the opportunity to disassociate themselves with the sub standard LSAT averages of their students by dropping the requirement. Only time will tell, but this seems to be a classic example of Shakespearean comedy: Much Ado About Nothing.
Check out some of the reactions from across the web:
http://amlawdaily.typepad.com/amlawdaily/2011/01/killthelsat.html
http://legalblogwatch.typepad.com/legal_blog_watch/2011/01/will-the-aba-make-lsats-voluntary.html
Is It Worth Going to Law School?
Posted by noah@manhattanlsat.com in Admissions, post law school life on January 13th, 2011
It turns out that going to law school does not guarantee you’ll get rich. Are you surprised? Are you putting down your pencil and throwing out your LSAT prep book? The New York Times published an article stating what anyone who has done their research knows: people come out of law school with lots and lots of debt, and the job market is far worse than what it was during better economic times. What was most disturbing was the reminder that law schools fib on their stats about how well their grads do. It’s all about the rankings – and we repeat our “yuck!”
We have an interesting window into the legal job world because of our audition process: We generally see the resumes of some former lawyers in our inbox, but a year ago we started seeing a small surge of resumes from recent law school grads. Sometimes that’s great – they finished law school and realized law is not for them, or want to practice government law or something that allows them to teach at night. Those are the candidates we love to see, people with a passion and perhaps a bit of outside-the-box thinking. But, we also saw folks who had been banking on their summer associate job, previously the doorway to a post-grad job, leading to just a line on a resume. These were not the candidates we wanted to see.
But, at least in NYC, the legal economic tide is turning. Summer associates are starting to make their way into actual law firm jobs. No doubt this will take some time to trickle over the Hudson River into New Jersey and beyond, but it will. Will the legal world return to its former glory? Maybe. But, with more of the document review work being shipped overseas, what will big law firms use to treat their first year lawyers like cannon fodder?
For us, we’re still focused on our mission – helping people get great scores. And this news doesn’t really change the situation of our corner of the LSAT prep world. We push people towards the scores that get them into top schools where the job prospects are best, or into a mid-tier school with a scholarship where the post-graduation debt isn’t so heavy.
If you’re considering whether to go to law school – definitely don’t assume it’s a ticket to riches. Go and talk to several lawyers. And that should include one who is horribly unhappy at year 4 or 5, one who is at about the same place and loving it, and then a couple of folks 10-15 years into their career.
While you hunt them down, go ahead and read some of the other buzz about this:
http://mauledagain.blogspot.com/2011_01_01_archive.html#6796580884183909193
http://www.lawschoolpodcaster.com/2011/01/12/the-debate-over-the-value-of-law-school-goes-on/
Should I Cancel My LSAT Score?
Posted by noah@manhattanlsat.com in Admissions, LSAT Experiences on October 11th, 2010

It’s the Monday after an LSAT, so this is the question that’s filling the LSAT-universe. It’s not a pleasant discussion, but let’s get into it. Assuming that you just had a bad test day experience, here are a few considerations you should, well, consider:
1. Was this LSAT considerably different than your usual practice test experience? For example, did you only complete 3 games or RC passages when you usually complete 4? Or did you become violently ill?
2. Were you scoring comfortably within an acceptable score range on your last 2 – 3 practice tests?
3. What is the policy of the schools that interest you in terms of considering all scores, only your best, etc.
First things first: if YOU KNOW you bombed the LSAT, then you should cancel (unless all your goal schools are firmly committed to only considering your best score).
Now that we have that out of the way, you should start with #3. Let’s say that you have 8 schools in mind. If 6 of them will look at all your scores, then that should steer you towards canceling and re-taking.
If it turns out that most of the schools that interest you consider your top score primarily or only, then you can relax and find out your score.
If, as is more likely, you face a combination of policies – some law schools considering your best score, some considering all, some giving more weight to your best score though taking a look at the other ones – then you need to think more about questions #2 and #1.
Let’s continue our reverse order and think about question #2: If you were at the bottom of your goal score range – in other words, if you were scoring below your goal school’s median LSAT scores on your last 2-3 practice tests, then a slightly bad test day brings you already further below what you need. So, then we’re probably facing a cancel, unless your father happened to build the school library or something similar.
If you were actually hitting the top end of the range you needed, then a slightly bad test day should bring you to the median, which is a decent place to be.
Finally, let’s consider question #1: How bad a bad day was it? If you’ve had practice tests in which you have experienced a similar screw-up – such as dropping an entire game – and you were able to salvage a decent score, then that suggests this event was not an anomaly and you might want to see the score. However, if this – you swear -was the first time this has ever happened, then you’re looking at a cancel-me-now situation.
Go ahead and play around with the LSAT/GPA calculator that the LSAC helpfully provides. Take a deep breath, and consider this as rationally as you can.
LSAC Predicts Which Law School You’ll Get Into
Posted by noah@manhattanlsat.com in Admissions on September 24th, 2010
The LSAT is many things, but cutting edge it is not. It knows the LSAT is pretty darn predictive, so there’s no apparent interest in switching from paper and pencil to a computerized format. And you still need to use a #2 pencil – and mechanical pencils are even a no-no! But, this past month we see that LSAT has finally upgraded their website. Congratulations, LSAC!
The features are more or less similar – a file moved here, a sample test gone there – but one thing that will interest folks who like to stay up late wondering what are the chances of getting into Columbia with a 3.5 and a 172….It was always on the LSAC website, but it was deeply buried and wasn’t so pretty. It used to feel like something dirty and forbidden! LSAC realized what we all want to do all day between practice tests!
Happy school hunting!
Should I Postpone, Cancel or Take an Absence for the LSAT?
Posted by noah@manhattanlsat.com in Admissions on May 12th, 2010
Good question! Obviously this depends on your situation, but in general, if by this Friday, May 14 – your last day to postpone your registration for the June LSAT – you are not scoring at least 3-4 points from a score that you’d be OK having, you probably won’t like your actual score. There are definite exceptions to this rule, but that’s a decent rule of thumb. But don’t pull your hair out over this question, because if you decide NOT to postpone, and then realize – eek! – you’re not feeling the LSAT winds blowing in your favor, you will face a set of options, many of which are perfectly acceptable. Steve Schwartz wrote a great analysis of these different options,




